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Premium gas often not needed; driver is top mpg factor

USA Today -- Regular gas probably is OK in some cars meant for premium gas, unless the automaker specifies that high-octane is "required" rather than "recommended."

And that can take a load off your wallet, especially now when there's a 30-cent difference between the average price of regular unleaded, $3.78 a gallon, vs. premium at $4.08 a gallon, according to AAA's Daily Fuel Gauge.

Hot weather, heavy loads, high altitudes - those might demand premium fuel even if it's only recommended.

Listen for pings and knocks. A few, now and then, is not a problem, engineers say. But if you hear a lot of under-hood rattling, ease off the gas pedal immediately and go find a premium pump. You risk wrecking the engine otherwise.

Driver behavior still matters more than technology as a fuel-saving solution.


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Submitted Feb 23, 2013 By: brbaritone
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ddor
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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 9:21:46 AM

Ok
DrCashFlow
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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 4:23:06 AM

"required" rather than "recommended."
word spin
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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 2:50:14 AM

not needed
alterman156
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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 2:21:29 AM

If premium gasoline isn't suggested for your car, don't bother using it since there will be no gain in performance. You'll just be wasting your money.
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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 1:56:55 AM

Regular works fine for my car.
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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 12:26:37 AM

There is no news in this article.
rahcat
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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 12:20:13 AM

Use what is needed.
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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 12:10:25 AM

O.K.
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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 12:05:51 AM

dhan
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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 12:04:16 AM

If you can afford a car that needs premium fuel, you might want to use it. Unless you bought above your means.
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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 12:04:02 AM

nonsense...
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:58:57 PM

Who makes big vehicles that need premium gas?
lowspeed
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:58:07 PM

does it make that big of a difference?
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:56:48 PM

absolutly
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:56:19 PM

Something many drivers ignore and over pay to buy for their cars...
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:54:18 PM

Very few vehicles now a day need premium fuel any more
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:52:40 PM

true
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:52:04 PM

More people need to know this
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:51:16 PM

waste of money on higher grades it is all the same fuel.
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:50:49 PM

This is good
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:43:17 PM

I am guessing most use regular most of the time, and save on costs. Who uses mid-grade?
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:43:10 PM

Any particular reason why the gasoline engine on the Chevy Volt requires premium, @Focus2?
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:43:05 PM

I drive a car "recommended", never use it.
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:42:19 PM

You know what's in fuel additive, @obimerrill?

Methanol... ethanol's dirty cousin.
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:40:14 PM

My scooter likes the premium gas :)
Aviator_Rob
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:39:32 PM

Gotta disagree with you @OuttaOfGAS. Unless a car specifically requires premium, you won't get much benefit from premium gas. Most engines are not so finely tuned that they'll wring every last ounce of energy out of premium.

Engines that get the most out of premium usually have a higher compression ratio. The higher octane is necessary to prevent detonation caused by the higher compression.
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:39:13 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:36:52 PM

Use the grade that is recommended.
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:35:20 PM

But if your car needs it, you'd better use it
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:32:32 PM

more like 40 cents a gallon here
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:31:02 PM

With some vehicles, it DOES make a difference.

Even with knock sensors, I noticed with our 1995 Dodge Intrepid with the 3.5L engine, using 87 octane, 89 was recommended, while the timing was retarded to prevent pre-ignition, it created a hesitation on acceleration from a dead stop, so over time, it broke the rear motor mount.

I did the cost/benefit analysis on it, rough difference in price over 85K miles, and the cost of a motor mount.

Looking at it purely that way, I broke even.

However, I did use 89 octane in it, afterward, 'cause the hesitation drove me nuts over time.

Now, there *are* vehicles which specify premium which DO NOT need it. The two I have personal experience with are both Mercedes, a 1989 vintage 420SEL and a 1995 vintage E320. Both were known to have special US-only resistors which retarded timing to be 100% fine with regular.

Elsewhere, you really did need to use high octane fuel to prevent engine damage over the long term. However, those engines also produced slightly more power.

Everything is a trade-off.
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:29:50 PM

Never buy premium gas
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:29:06 PM

No difference.
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:25:53 PM

Gasoline, one oh one.
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:22:42 PM

I did note a difference in my car when i didn't use premium.
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:21:15 PM

Was it ever needed?
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:21:05 PM

I've never seen anybody buy anything other then regular.
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:20:42 PM

I wouldn't want to own a car that can't run off regular gas. Thats' just me
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:20:08 PM

And what is E15 going to do to it.
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:20:07 PM

Drivers need to save money!!
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:15:00 PM

Most cars can use regular
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 11:02:36 PM

I had a car that required premium. What a pain that was.
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 10:39:06 PM

Not as big of a need as it was even a decade ago.
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 9:52:03 PM

Easy on the accelerator...
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 9:50:01 PM

OK!
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 9:48:29 PM

Driver habits absolutely make the most difference
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 9:46:12 PM

Another Big oil scam!
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 9:42:32 PM

I agree.
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 9:42:21 PM

That's true
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 9:41:02 PM

I'm just a "regular" guy.
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 9:40:54 PM

why buy a car that needs high test?
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