StArrow68

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Oakland
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 3:29:55 PM
Thinking GM would disappear is wishful at best. The only thing that got saved was the Unions. GM would have survived with a lower cost structure and same for the suppliers.
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2012 8:00:40 AM
thanks LeEC :)
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LetemEatCake

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 10:19:16 PM
Well said Honda0105 and Sneakers!
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 7:43:18 AM
Sneakers: I agree. Money well spent.
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virostek

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Dec 27, 2012 7:07:01 AM
OK.
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virostek

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Dec 27, 2012 7:06:49 AM
OK.
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Sneakers55

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Houston
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Message Posted: Dec 27, 2012 4:58:11 AM
On Dec 27, 2012 3:41:18 AM, NedW wrote:
>Tax payer dollars were spent.
Taxpayer dollars would have been spent if Government Motors would have collapsed. Especially if the suppliers also collapsed and took Ford with them. That was a very real concern back in 2008 when Bush-43 was President and the whole economy was in free-fall.
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NedW

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Dec 27, 2012 4:41:18 AM
Tax payer dollars were spent. GM should not be allowed to buy those shares back at a loss to the U.S. tax payer.
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52MPG

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Dec 27, 2012 12:32:14 AM
Hopefully GM will survive on there own.
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LetemEatCake

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 10:42:57 PM
All righty then Jumpmaster82...Boycott GM???? You sound like every stereotypical vision of NC. How many jobs are you planning to lose in the US? Then ask yourself...can we afford it????
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vandamme

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New York
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 10:32:51 AM
It helped Obama get reelected, and you paid for it.
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ClarkSC

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 9:58:59 AM
Another failure.
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peabeax55

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 9:04:51 AM
It was a failure from an investment standpont. At least Lee Iacocca paid his loan back in full. I never bought a GM product in my 60 years of life but was forced to lose money on this deal through tax dollars hard at work.
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oilfreak

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Houston
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 8:27:34 AM
That's why in the long run, big government is a pain in the consumers' back.
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Ray_10589

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New York
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 1:46:53 AM
What about the taxpayer?
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danindenver

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Denver
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 1:09:18 AM
It wasn't a failure for Obama. He got what we paid for.
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skb69sa

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 1:08:46 AM
GM is now better than what it was 4 years back.
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Jeff4U

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 12:41:32 AM
A bunch of crap! GM still owes around 24 billion taxpayer dollar! How is this a bargain or a winning campaign issue? Oh... because liberals can't tell the difference between fact and fiction... I almost forgot.
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crreed1

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West Virginia
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 12:23:52 AM
ok
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Jumpmaster82

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 12:17:59 AM
Taxpayers will still lose $billions and GM will lose a lot of customers that will never forget. Boycott GM.
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TRAIN RIDER

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San Bernardino
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 12:17:31 AM
Only problem is that when they sell the stock they will lose money on it and so will the US taxpayers. It seems that no matter what Obama does we lose.
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GLCSHADOW

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 12:17:28 AM
Not a failure? Selling back at half the price does not look like a success to me.
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cheapchickKY

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 12:15:50 AM
It seems not repaying loans is becoming the American way.
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iFueler

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Durham
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 12:15:48 AM
headline on old news a little different from other financial articles
[Edited by: iFueler at 12/26/2012 12:17:37 AM EST]
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jcdakota

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Baltimore
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 12:12:50 AM
Why do we need to bail out American businesses any way?
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boatfloyd

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Jacksonville
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 12:12:24 AM
I'm staying out of GM stock.
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7SPEEDY7

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Flint
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 12:11:48 AM
Good
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TxMtb

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 12:11:28 AM
Geesh, they still haven't paid it back.
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bhb2009

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Flint
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 12:10:37 AM
did Obama help or hinder
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UpSol7

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Augusta
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 12:08:54 AM
Good news
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MRED3

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Jacksonville
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 12:07:50 AM
I would like to see my cut.
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confetti

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 12:07:17 AM
What about the stockholders who were cheated out of their investments? I bet they still don't consider that fiasco a success.
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ricebike

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 12:06:45 AM
ok
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joel27nc

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Raleigh
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 12:05:39 AM
Seems to have failed to me.
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John747

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 12:04:35 AM
President Obama bailed out the UAW - not GM and Chrylser.
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cheaper0ON

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 12:03:20 AM
Whatever.
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wkb03

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Georgia
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 12:02:11 AM
Old news
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Tiernan

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 12:01:55 AM
Winning campaign issue? No comment..
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nztyraider

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Nevada
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 12:01:06 AM
All Obama's rich friends bought those tax deductible cars.
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NO_SWEAT

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 12:00:11 AM
Whatever
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mstearno

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:57:08 PM
how would this be good for OBAMA OH yeah I forgot he always tells us how it could have been worse
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tutaw

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:55:48 PM
really?
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mia3bxs

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Miami
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:53:17 PM
If everything pans out in the end as planned, then good for Obama.
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mstearno

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:52:14 PM
end it with a huge loss What do you expect from a community organizer. How did he ever get re elected?
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CCLighthouse

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Hartford
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:48:35 PM
We will see if it gets executed.
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DYSKYPILOT

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Fort Worth
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:48:08 PM
ok.
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bhb2009

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Flint
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:45:21 PM
was this really obama plan...
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The_DR

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:41:52 PM
merry xmas
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homespesial

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Seattle
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:41:50 PM
interesting
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HailstormCA

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San Diego
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 11:40:46 PM
It's still to be done. And let's not have it done at a loss to the American people.
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