MadFueler

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Winston-Salem
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 7:12:06 PM
Those maximum payment figures look awful high to me - maybe they assume a paid-off house and zero credit card debt.
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Sneakers55

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Houston
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 9:06:49 AM
On Feb 28, 2013 7:34:55 AM, TruthMatters wrote:
>What's wrong with pre-owned cars?
They're too politically correct... got to avoid the U-word!
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TruthMatters

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 8:34:55 AM
That's a good thing. Maybe now those who can't afford them won't be tempted to buy them without giving a thought to how to make the payments down the road.
What's wrong with pre-owned cars?
[Edited by: TruthMatters at 2/28/2013 8:35:57 AM EST]
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gmcgas

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 4:26:18 AM
well at first i agree, but after thinking a bit to price of the car has went up with the wages earned. its all the extra costs taxes ect that made the diffrence. even gas prices.
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iFueler

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Durham
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 2:36:20 AM
the new reality
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ClarkSC

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 2:34:42 AM
No kidding.
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vulcan96

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 2:29:22 AM
maby the boy should stop taking so many $4,000,000 vacations
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abacus44

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Toms River
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 2:26:31 AM
The down side of safety and environmental regulations!
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Ron77095

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Houston
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 2:18:36 AM
What?
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Lairre

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Sacramento
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 2:16:16 AM
Just numbers...
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Happytalk

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 2:15:57 AM
I agree
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divebomber

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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 2:14:52 AM
YEP!
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streetcars

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 2:14:46 AM
Never bought a new ride in my life, current ride is 14 years old and hope to get another 10 years out of it.
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Rooster922

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Wilmington
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 2:12:56 AM
Really
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MaryKayByBJ

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 2:11:11 AM
Instead of getting a car this year, I have put it off for at least three more. Mostly because I don't like car payments and it will take a while for me to save up even for th emodest $17k I plan on paying. It is now $14k and I ma guessing it will be another 3 by the time I can afford it. However, I am used to driving cars "into the ground." With the exception of a Toyota which died on the fwy after less than 80k, everything else has lasted 300k ++ and all except one was sold to someone (still running condition) else. Since I get 16/22 to drive a very comfortable vehicle, I can't see spending money on anything that doesn't get at least 30 in the city. (I don't plan on selling my current one; the next car would just be to drive around town.)
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judgemobile

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 2:09:49 AM
waiting for my stimulus check, NOT JUST TAX REFUND==then will not be out of reach
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KrsnaDragon

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 2:07:27 AM
I'm glad I'm not in the market for a new vehicle at this time.
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sprocketsplines

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Washington
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 2:05:50 AM
Seems silly that automakers would make products priced beyond the ability of most of their customers to afford them. This is likely what led to GM being bailed out.
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granitestater

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 2:05:05 AM
There are still some cars down around 15 thousand dollars. Prices are up because of all the new safety requirements. seat belts, roll bars, safety cages, air bags, etc.
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VikingWoman

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Washington
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 2:01:43 AM
When they write these articles it must be really difficult to remember to differentiate between Washington D.C. and Washington State.
I thought $86,680 was pretty high for Washington State so I found a Washington State website with the information. King County (Seattle area) in Washington has the highest projected annual median income of $68,313.
Obviously this article is using Washington D.C. for the $86+ median income.
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livewire300

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:58:34 AM
Ya, price TOO HIGH...
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BEngr

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:55:30 AM
My 2001 truck has a lot of service life left, so I don't plan on buying a new vehicle this year.
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BobD2009

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Long Island
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:53:51 AM
Welcome to the horrible Obama economy.
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goldrose1

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:53:24 AM
I see inflation here.
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SteelPenny

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:52:05 AM
No way I can afford a new car. Thanks Zero'BOY.
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suicyco16

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Phoenix
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:51:57 AM
Just another example of inflation.
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alterman156

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New York
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:50:37 AM
One does not need to pay the average price to get a perfectly good new vehicle. Many compact cars are good and they are often affordable.
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billy44bo

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Mobile
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:50:01 AM
thanks barry
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Ticoman54

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Miami
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:46:24 AM
And this is news? If anything, things have been this way for the past 4 years, especially since Nobama took office.
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bikechuck

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:41:24 AM
Yes, and how does Obama think our national debt will ever be afforded? All this crap over $85 billion 'cut' when he had a 800 to 1 trillion spent as a 'stimulus', good gosh when are we going to have an afforable budget?
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craigsf38

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Rochester
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:34:39 AM
Soon we will be walking
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MrPony

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:31:09 AM
And there ain't any used cars 'cause Osama had them all crushed!
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Tigercat88

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:30:42 AM
The Food prices are almost out of reach.
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Ray_10589

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New York
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:29:31 AM
squeeze on the middle calss
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Mowerman08

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:29:08 AM
cnbc beating the drum
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grouch311

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Peoria
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:25:32 AM
the heck with incentives, just drop the price to start with. if they can put an incentive on, they can sell for that much less to start with.
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RENEGADEGAS

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:25:26 AM
Ya Think!! Not only are the car prices going up, Americans just lost a chunk of their paychecks after the first of the year! Many are working lesser paying jobs and 16% of the country is unemployed. Just dont get why new cars are out of reach for most.
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liao

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:24:14 AM
That is inflation for us.
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HelenT

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Buffalo
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:22:53 AM
That's for sure!
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Jedman982

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Modesto
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:21:18 AM
Ok
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BCM1

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Pennsylvania
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:20:31 AM
Service industry jobs typically pay less than $10 per hour. We are becoming more and more a service country. Good jobs are going away. How can you buy a new car at $10 per hour and still afford food and shelter?
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mcbrownie220

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:20:17 AM
ok
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kcboy

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Utah
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:19:26 AM
What will they do when more people go on s.s.. We will be able to buy a new car.
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madison8359

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:19:22 AM
Thanks for sharing how poor we are.
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SBlouch

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:18:10 AM
Of course, cars are becoming more expensive as the price of owning one is also going up each year as well as the car insurance and gas.
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jetskijerry

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:17:22 AM
I'll have to keep my old van for aT LEAST 5 YEARS
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jetskijerry

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:16:56 AM
I agree.
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pinofl

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Miami
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:15:44 AM
ok
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probedude2

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Akron
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:15:10 AM
Not everyone SHOULD be able to afford a new car...
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rd2000

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Florida
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 1:15:04 AM
this is not good
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