1006

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Birmingham
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Message Posted: Dec 30, 2012 4:13:19 PM
did you get your points sjf238?
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sjf238

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Philadelphia
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Message Posted: Dec 27, 2012 1:03:45 PM
Ok.
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Houckster

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Dec 27, 2012 11:54:04 AM
With recharge times holding back electric cars, it seems that it would be wise to standardize electric car batteries and design the cars so that a recharge station could simply remove the depleted battery and install one that's charged.
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DanMtz

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Oakland
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Message Posted: Dec 27, 2012 11:29:21 AM
Hmmm, does that affect battery life?
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jrs4125

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Dec 27, 2012 6:20:29 AM
Alrighty then
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7SPEEDY7

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Flint
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Message Posted: Dec 27, 2012 12:09:01 AM
Cool!
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Marson

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Scranton
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 9:48:43 PM
If it has a good range on that charge it ouwld be very valuable.
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pgriff1

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New Orleans
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 7:56:06 PM
Depending on the range, 20 min. charge time would be workable if I could stop at a coffee shop and get an internet connection.
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gasrat6083

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Long Island
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 6:46:24 PM
Convenience issue? Nonsense. Baseline practicality issue.
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JamesCalvin

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Lancaster
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 6:31:56 PM
Speedy!
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nskmda

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 4:12:27 PM
really? it makes more sense now...
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ceklea

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 2:50:07 PM
As the article states, "Many chargers are still designed for slow charging, as the fast-charging ones are larger, more powerful, and more expensive, but the ability of batteries themselves to charge faster has improved quite a bit."
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schvanda63

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Lansing
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 2:44:27 PM
bouncing4fun wrote "I have the same question as Cellsite. Who is paying for the electricity?"
Plug in your car, plug in your credit card. Make them pay for what they use. No public funded charging stations.
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orphancarguyPE

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PEI
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 2:29:57 PM
People might put up with inconvenience if they save money. THAT is the argument being used to sell people on natural gas cars and trucks--its very inconvenient right now, takes longer to fill, has safety issues, and costs $11,000-$50,000 for a conversion. $11,000 is the extra cost for a new pickup truck--so you have to chew through a lot of fuel at $2.00 a GGE to make CNG a worthwhile option.
Electric? Filling up is always the weak point, but it is WAY CHEAPER to run than natural gas, propane, gasoline, diesel, or hydrogen. Forget all you know about how many dollars per gallon,. What you need to know is how many cents per mile it costs to run a vehicle. Here is a handy thing to remember: For the -distance- you can run on $5.00 of gasoline, in similar cars it would cost $3.50 for diesel, about $2.00 (with a huge up and down depending where and how) for CNG, and 80-90 cents worth of electricity. You do not want to know what hydrogen would really cost in the real world in a free unsubsidized market--just think 'clean but PRICEY'
20-30 minutes is about the minimum amount of time someone spends in a supermarket, or at a shopping mall, or at a hospital outpatients, or a doctor or dentist office, or dinner out, or out meeting friends, or just about 90% of all your real stops. So if it is easy to 'plug' in in a lot of useful places, well before a battery is fully flat--you might not even need that much time. If a container is 3/4 full, it needs less put into it than if its half full, or 1/4 full or empty.
Just think about it for a second. And that is with 'plug' charging. The 'next thing' close on the horizon is wireless proximity (induction) charging--you don't even need a plug. The technology has been in use for years for smaller devices; its just 'details' for vehicles, and the 'self-parking' technology that Ford and others use is the last major piece of the puzzle needed to adopt it. Having a smart phone that tells you/directs you to the closest charging point to your stop will make it all really simple.
Changing your thinking about HOW you go about things means that you might never waste 5 minutes of your time filling up at a station ever again. You car fills up or just 'tops up' without you being there, with or without a plug. When you come back, it is all ready for you.
[Edited by: orphancarguyPE at 12/26/2012 2:32:44 PM EST]
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tankumo

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Vancouver
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 2:08:21 PM
Still waiting for better technology.
It's much faster if you use gasoline, natural gas, diesel or hydrogen.
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leemun

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Utah
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 12:42:34 PM
I can recharge at the gas pump in less than 5 minutes.
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fedupMN

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 12:41:11 PM
Fast charge sounds like a winner to me.
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darkform

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 12:39:40 PM
Good
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schatzila

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 12:05:38 PM
Not bad. Time to shoot for 5-10 min. charges.
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must87searcher

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Maryland
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:59:19 AM
This is an advance ment of the EV.
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Red7002011

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Mississippi
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:45:36 AM
20 minutes or 3 minutes?
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Holly123

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Charlotte
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:44:29 AM
That's awesome!
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NightRider

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:31:32 AM
This is a media blitz to push a technology that is too expensive, has lots of environmental baggage and the majority of the public does not want.
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Hangnail309

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Manitoba
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:27:29 AM
not sold on all electric vehicles yet ...
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AriesMMD

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Sacramento
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:26:46 AM
Only good for people who never go more than a few miles from home.
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AcuraTSX

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Ohio
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:22:29 AM
Charge for 20 minutes. Drive for 20 minutes?
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Lizzylou

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Stockton
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:21:37 AM
The faster the better???
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bouncing4fun

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Sacramento
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:20:15 AM
I have the same question as Cellsite. Who is paying for the electricity?
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Wesk8

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:20:06 AM
But will it pull the boat I don't own up the mountain I don't live by?
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vwilsonskis

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:19:58 AM
Lunch, charge and go see we americans can be leaders
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RichWLIN

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:19:24 AM
So what?
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LuckyD43

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Long Island
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:18:39 AM
Electric vehicles are not for me. If anything, I'd go with a hybrid.
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YodaON

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Ottawa
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:17:00 AM
Not something I want yet
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unclenorman

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Tampa
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:15:44 AM
I don't get a charge out of this car.
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kuma2000

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Honolulu
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:14:00 AM
not for me - will stick with gasoline.
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Mikeyl

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:13:06 AM
Electric will have it's day... just not today.
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rasprout

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Tacoma
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:12:56 AM
If you are only going 100 miles then a pure electric vehicle is a smart choice. but if you are traveling any distance then go gas...
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THEDodgeman

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Denver
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:11:27 AM
no thanks
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leraar2

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:11:22 AM
only takes me three minutes to fill my fuel tank. electric vehicles are uneconomical, inefficient and NOT GREEN.
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LongPlay

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Albuquerque
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:10:47 AM
Electric cars are not generally useful unless you have enough money to have several vehicles.
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firechief

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New York
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:10:33 AM
not practical for me
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Topless2012

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:08:29 AM
Quick is never as good. Just enough to go a little further?
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donny47

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:08:22 AM
battery wont last as long doing this
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Cellsite

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Appleton
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:07:49 AM
Unless these charging stations are like a parking meter where you plug them with coins, who's paying for them and the electricity? All of us who patronize that facility, since they'll have to raise prices/rates to cover the cost. I don't want to pay for the electricity for someone rich enough to afford an impracticable overpriced vehicle that can only go 40 miles on a charge.
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livewire300

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:07:31 AM
Foresee a: Fire Hazard...
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Discovery02

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Colorado Springs
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:06:42 AM
Keep innovating and building a supporting infrastructure.
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RAE344

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:05:17 AM
That is nice. I would prefer a battery I can change out.
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Insuremn

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:04:15 AM
I'll keep my Jeep.
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checkitnow

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:03:57 AM
range anxiety affects only EV drivers
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Jorgie

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2012 11:03:06 AM
How far can you go before you have to do the 20 minute charge???
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