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Long-awaited NH pollution trial ready to start

Eagle-Tribune -- CONCORD, N.H. (AP) — Nearly a decade after it was first brought, a lawsuit accusing two oil giants of widespread groundwater contamination in New Hampshire is expected to present jurors with the most complex and time-consuming trial in state history.

The products liability case against ExxonMobil and Citgo will be tried beginning in mid-January in a federal courtroom — on loan to the state — because it would undermine the rights of criminal defendants to a speedy trial if it tied up one of the three courtrooms in Merrimack Superior Court, officials said.

The state sued 26 oil companies and subsidiaries in 2003, claiming the gasoline additive MTBE, methyl tertiary butyl ether, caused groundwater contamination in a state where 60 percent of the population relies on private wells for drinki


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honda0105
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 5:58:46 AM

NHLF: one could almost read the API affiliation into Buckeye's comments, couldnt' one?
honda0105
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 5:57:48 AM

Good luck in htat hopefully justice can be served.
remay
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 6:15:15 AM

Wow is about all I can say...
NHLiveFree
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 11:50:01 PM


Total misinformation from Buckeye. The manufacturers were and are responsible for foisting MTBE on us all and carelessly controlling it. They knew all along how soluble in water it was, yet they hid this critical information under their usual ploy of 'trade secrets'. Please keep you oil industry misinformation to yourself Buckeye, or do your represent the API and its 'spin' on all that concerns oil and gas?
Buckeyee
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 9:56:36 PM

The EPA approved MTBE, just like ethanol !! Sue the EPA, after all it is just paper for dollars !!
PDQBlues
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 2:46:00 PM


It's taken almost a decade to bring this trial, and there is concern that holding the trial in Merrimack Superior Court would "undermine the rights of criminal defendants to a speedy trial"? I wonder what they considered a slow trial?

I remember during the 1980s & 90s many stations had to replace their tanks due to leakage that caused MTBE contamination.
tomok
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 2:11:51 PM

Who 'spilled' the gas containing MTBE - Methyl tertiary butyl ether?
Everyone driving a vehicle 'spilled' it! MTBE was added to gasoline to improve combustion, replace fuel 'lead' and reduce knocking, improve the octane fuel rating and reduce pollution. MTBE works very good at improving combustion - they were randomly sampling ground water and there it was. MTBE combines with water very well and it came from the incomplete combustion of gasoline and MTBE in the combustion chamber of an engine. Out the exhaust pipe and into the air where rain, snow, ice and water vapor exists. MTBE combines very well with water and seeps into the ground where it can be found today. It does Not matter if you drove a vehicle or not, MTBE can be found 'almost' anywhere in the world. An additive free pure gasoline fuel is much better for combustion than an altered fuel that we have to buy at the fuel pump.
Do a web search for MTBE, there are many articles about it and the impact on the environment.
OldMan322
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 10:11:23 AM

GOOD LUCK !!
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 9:27:32 AM

MTBE found in african bush folks blood who never been in a car....

MTBE man made chemical NOT found anywhere in environment prior to release...

now found everwhere ... even in fossil fooler robots....
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 9:22:32 AM

Great points StephenOM.
Joeski1
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 9:14:54 AM

MTBE even found in bush folks noold in Africa who never been inside a car....
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 8:07:05 AM

Good luck against Big Oil.
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 7:46:11 AM

Clean up the pollution!
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 6:55:02 AM

Go NH!
RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 6:52:49 AM

Not sure why this has taken so long to decide.
WonderfulMI
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 6:31:37 AM

Who spilled it into the ground in the first place? End of story.
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 6:26:06 AM

Then comes alcohol
StephenOM
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 6:13:13 AM

2 questions.

1) Who approved it originally? The EPA required refiners to reduce smog and approved MTBE, then later re-classified it as a "possible human carcinogen." Where are they in this suit? Oh, protected as an entity of the federal government.

2) Who actually "spilled" the gas containing MTBE? Once it was out of the hands of the refiners how could they control it's proper handling? Why aren't those other parties being sued? Oh, their pockets aren't as deep as the refiner's and they are not as easy to demonize. They are your neighbor, the kid at the gas station or convenience store.

Big oil is this enormous, shadowy entity that's "out to get you." But without it, the kid at the gas station would be out of a job and your car wouldn't go, your house would be cold, and all those plastics you see making all that cool technology you love? Gone.
Jeffro61
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 6:05:33 AM

Ok
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:52:56 AM

Hit them hard
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:52:22 AM

sound like a tough roe to hoe
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:49:14 AM

Tough to put a price on drinking water...
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:48:32 AM

What will this lead to!!
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:48:08 AM

I feel for the jurors.
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:47:01 AM

Sounds like a very long ugly trial.
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:46:04 AM

The lawyers are the big winner here,
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:44:40 AM

Anytine attorneys win the public loses. Roaches do have to eat.
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:44:17 AM

This could get ugly.
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:39:47 AM

so then what
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:37:55 AM

The lawyers will win big ... and we will all get to pay in the end!
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:37:22 AM

Ok
ILVET
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:36:06 AM

The state needs money
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:34:25 AM

when you have lots of money you can delay forever
Hunter724
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:26:50 AM

Hold their feet to the fire and make the oil giants clean up their mess!!!
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:25:48 AM

Ditto to vamike
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:25:46 AM

Only good for the lawyers.
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:25:14 AM

I agree, this is just a money maker for the lawyers.
vamike
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:23:49 AM

End result: the lawyers will get richer and nothing else will change.
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:23:39 AM

What a mess.
danny999
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:22:44 AM

Make em drink so called polluted water.
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:21:17 AM

wow...
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:21:07 AM

That's the system for you.
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:20:45 AM

justice moves slow
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:20:30 AM

Liberal Government at work.
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:19:34 AM

things move slow.
silverfox63
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:17:42 AM

I bet if these companies lose the lawsuit, we will be paying for it at the pump.
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:16:46 AM

Nice...
vcsuksu21
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:16:29 AM

Ok
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:15:06 AM

hmmmm
SUPERSTEVIEO
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:13:02 AM

and just how did the MTBE gey into the water system???
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Message Posted: Jan 2, 2013 5:11:27 AM

OK
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