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Hawaii's solar power flare-up: Too much of a good thing?

LA Times -- So many private solar panels are returning power to the grid that utilities fear their systems can't handle it all.

WAILUKU, Hawaii — On an island whose stock in trade is sun, and lots of it, Lawrence and Cindy Lee figured they'd be foolish not to join their neighbors and put a few solar panels on the roof.

The Lees called one of the solar contractors racing around Hawaii these days, and put in their order. Eleven months later, in October — after endless consultations, emails and a $3,000 study required by Maui Electric Co. — they were still waiting for a permit.

"Instead of it being like they want to help you get your solar system in," Lawrence Lee said, "it's more like they don't want you to."

Solar power has grown increasingly popular across the U.S. Sun Belt,


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Ray_10589
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2012 12:24:53 AM

solar is great...
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SycamoreISU
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 11:12:39 AM

When the wind gets too strong or if power needs are met, wind turbines shut down. Perhaps something similar can be set for solar power.
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F81M
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 10:58:46 AM

Of course the power company isn't in a big hurry. They lose money when you sell rather than buy.
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Norm10
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 10:49:39 AM

Maybe they should consider selling it to someone who can use it.
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 9:20:21 AM

put in the panels and don't connect it to the grid. run off the grid. Tell the power company to stuff it.
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 9:15:02 AM

If solar can stand on its own with without tax credits - go for it
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leeac
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 5:16:21 AM

There is no such thing as too much solar energy. It is simply a management problem. This is a wonderful problem to have.
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 4:55:52 AM

I hope the panels were manufactured domestically.
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 3:58:46 AM

Status quo never seems to want change does it?
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 2:34:05 AM


Why is it a problem when solar power generated on a homeowner's roof varies as clouds pass over the house, but not a problem when the same power is generated by solar panels owned by the electric utility company? Don't clouds ever interfere with the utility companies' solar panels?

The problems of variable sunlight can be solved with good engineering and design, so it's a specious argument, and residential solar systems don't produce power uncontrollably on a bright sunny day. They have electronic regulators installed as part of the system.

I think the utility companies are becoming concerned that all those solar panels are eating into their profit margin. They didn't worry about it before, but now there are so many residential solar installations that it's taking over a big chunk of their generating capacity, and profits.
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 2:23:50 AM

Love how big business hinders green energy. Even in local government
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 2:21:58 AM


Interesting article.

Thanks for sharing Cakeman ;0}
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:57:58 AM


A good problem to have.
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:55:07 AM

Unstable.
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:50:22 AM

Going green sure pays off, huh? Way to much money!
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:42:17 AM

Guess Hawaii just has too much sunshine per day. That proves we can produce enough home made power to scare the BIG power companies. Now ain't that somethin special???
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:41:56 AM

Having too much power available is like having too much money. These folks need to find something worth complaining about.
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:41:25 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:40:54 AM

Power companies don't make any money from solar.
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:40:05 AM

Too cloudy in west Michigan.
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:38:17 AM

yes....but ...wait ....but...maybe...but....we can't afford you to do it
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:37:41 AM

Solar power is a fools game.
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:33:03 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:27:39 AM

Fascinating. Some important lessons to be learned from Hawaii.
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:27:36 AM

ricebike, I agree. But again, it is the difference between the ice or swimming suit industry in Hawaii vs. Alaska. Hawaii has so much sun, they can't handle that much electricity being generated, whereas a less sunny area (Seattle ??) might welcome more of this "problem"
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:26:24 AM

Read the article. Their problem is their "grids" aren't a grid but a series of individual non-connected grids and the solar is overpowering some of the grids.
It's working too well !! Wish the rest of us could afford to put some panels on our roofs to defray some of our own electric cost.
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:23:43 AM

Would you help a competitor take your business?
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:23:38 AM

"They DON'T want you to install solar panels; they want you to pay them more for more electricity"

i agree
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:22:25 AM

these may go the way of the dodo bird or wind generators
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:21:01 AM

Just another example of government promoting things to get votes using taxpayer money without bothering to think about the overall sequences of what they were doing.
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:20:35 AM

It's nice if you have sun all the time.
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:20:02 AM

Too much of a good thing???
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:18:35 AM

A nice problem to have.
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:18:02 AM

If you do or if you don't, you are still held up by government
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:16:40 AM

can't handle the heat, huh?
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:16:22 AM

No not too much.
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:14:56 AM

This should be a good thing.
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:13:32 AM

Why the red tape?
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:11:59 AM

Sounds like they need a storage system.
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:09:38 AM

They DON'T want you to install solar panels; they want you to pay them more for more electricity
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:08:09 AM

Hawaii is one of the only places it would work like this.
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:02:35 AM

store the excess in batteries, use inverters to change it back to ac when needed.
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:00:00 AM

I have not seen that much here in Florida. I cannot see how this is a problem, as it reduces the generation during the day of other sources. The problem is in not being about to store the excess solar for use at another time, this has to change.
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 12:59:43 AM

So much for going Green.
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 12:55:57 AM

hmm...
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 12:55:40 AM

Well, it SEEMED like a good idea, at first.
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 12:54:50 AM

Be careful what you wish for.
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 12:49:13 AM

OK
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 12:48:38 AM

really
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 12:48:33 AM

my solar panels are for hot water only..until today, my hot water breakers had been off since sometime in the early spring, but i had to flip the breakers for a coupla hours, cause we've had clouds and more clouds, and not enough daylight ;(
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