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Controversial motor fuel with more ethanol raises concerns

Palm Beach Post -- The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency now allows E15, a blend of 15 percent ethanol and 85 percent gasoline, to be sold, but don’t expect it to be offered in Florida any time soon. Nationwide, only a dozen or so stations in the corn ethanol-producing states of Iowa, Nebraska and Kansas sell it, according to the Renewable Fuels Association.

In fact, there’s a growing backlash against ethanol with diverse groups calling for repeal of the federal Renewable Fuels Standard that requires increasing amounts of the alternative fuel to be produced each year. The RFS requires refiners to blend 15 billion gallons of biofuels such as corn ethanol into the U.S. fuel supply by 2015.

The thinking is that increased use of ethanol will reduce gasoline prices and promote energy independence from...


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tomok
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 1:58:04 AM

Controversial motor fuel with more ethanol raises concerns, what almost everybody has known for a very long time now. The EPA has no clue what they are doing to the citizens and vehicles of the US and making the rest of the country do what should NOT be done. Somebody has put a stop to this ethanol crap in gasoline, Sneeky certainly isn't going to do anything about it.
NO FUEL FROM FOOD!
NO *E-5, *E-10, *E-15 OR *E-100 –> ONLY 'E-0' fuel is Allowed!
Drives vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money.
The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
honda0105
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 12:01:39 AM

EtOH has never been the answer. Let's get back to using corn for food, not for fuel in the tank.
blupupher
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 10:34:50 AM

e-10 is bad enough, e-15 will destroy vehicles.
jrs4125
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 8:03:03 AM

Shouldn't be made with food crops especially after a drout.
GasPriceHelp4u
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 7:04:19 AM

BAD idea to begin with which was cooked up in Washington DC by lawmakers from Corn growing states!!!
gravityhurts
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 7:02:00 AM

The thinking that the use of ethanol would reduce gas prices? So much for that thinking. Gas prices have been at record highs since 2008. Thanks for nothing. The only way I like my corn is on the lightly buttered on the cob.
DrCashFlow
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 2:07:18 AM

'growing' is putting it mildly
jrsva
Champion Author Virginia

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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:32:28 AM

“This is one big lie, as it is not mandated anywhere.”

What cave have you been living in, Goldseeker? The Renewable Fuels Standard (RFS) requires the use of billions of gallons of non-petroleum fuel, largely ethanol, each year. Federal regulations require the use of reformulated fuel in certain areas: EPA site listing RFG mandate areas. Some state laws also mandate reformulated fuel. They may not explicitly state an ethanol requirement but that is what is used to achieve RFG standards in 99% of all cases.

alterman156
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:24:23 AM

If you have a new or recently made piece of power equipment such as a lawn mower or a snowblower, the owner's manual will tell you not to use a blend greater than E-10 as the engine is not designed to run with a blend of more than 10% ethanol.
C.Carpets
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:22:55 AM

A Crime on Humanity, Burning Food in American cars.
PrinceLH
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:20:57 AM

They also have a tendency to burn out small engines, if you use this crap. Don't put it in a lawnmower or snowblower!
jrsva
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:19:51 AM

"However, a federal Department of Energy study found a 3.7 percent decrease in miles per gallon with E10 and a 5.3 percent drop in fuel economy with E15."

Those are really conservative numbers. I would expect at least double those decreases for many vehicles.
jrsva
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:17:40 AM

“Nationwide, only a dozen or so stations in the corn ethanol-producing states of Iowa, Nebraska and Kansas sell [E15].”

It is good to know that this garbage is not catching on.
boatfloyd
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:16:07 AM

Discontinue Corn as Fuel for Cars.
rahcat
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:15:01 AM

Eat corn....don't use it for fuel.
tedjm1
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:14:47 AM

The think-tank better go back to school.
us4usa
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:13:55 AM

"However, a federal Department of Energy study found a 3.7 percent decrease in miles per gallon with E10 and a 5.3 percent drop in fuel economy with E15."

Remember Uncle Sam get Gas Tax on every gallon we buy, less MPG=more Tax $...
goldseeker
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:12:36 AM

This is one big lie, as it is not mandated anywhere.
papakoca
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:11:24 AM

Nothing good will come from the ethanol mandates.
regout
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:10:46 AM

Keep corn for people.
Rageagainsttm
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:10:40 AM

NO Ethanol Please.
joel27nc
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:08:59 AM

Ethanol should not be in gasoline. Not to use food for fuel!
Blue_Cruzer
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:08:14 AM

Ethanol should not be allowed to be sold as gas.
Tsunamiron
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:08:09 AM

Too much government control. America is no longer the land of the free.
bvrbill
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:06:22 AM

No more ethanol.
ManOfLeisureII
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:06:19 AM

We are getting cornholed
N5EXY
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:06:17 AM

Reminds me of a story I heard as a kid. A farmer was trying to mix sawdust with oats to feed his mules. Did not work out so well with the horsepower.
BurtB
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:06:17 AM

Ethanol should not be in gasoline.

It damages engines, and drives up the price of corn on the world market.

Math6149
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:04:41 AM

Less is better when it comes to ethanol in gas.
jetskijerry
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:03:56 AM

destroys my engine
jetskijerry
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:03:37 AM

It's crap.
Buddy2264
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 12:01:56 AM

If you have a flex fuel vehicle then no problem I am guessing. However I do not I have a 1997. But in the long run ethanol may work but it cannot all come from CORN as we are seeing now, there has to be other methods. It however does not seem to be lowering our prices.
TravisTuxy
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 11:59:39 PM

Build a car engine/system differently if you want more ethanol in a gas mixture. In other words, build a car that thrives & runs on it. That will get more stations to carry it!
papapacker
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 11:56:46 PM

Ethanol does not belong in gasoline
jadeusa
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 11:56:42 PM

Get rid of E85 or 15% ethanol.
grt197
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 11:56:32 PM

yep
Aserdaten
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 11:55:33 PM

Are there any people out there with no financial stake in the matter who approve of this 15% ethanol idea? I really doubt it. It's time to come to our senses and put the brakes on the whole ethanol business.
NorthglennBill
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 11:52:01 PM

This whole ethanol thing is such a mess.
jjfisher
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 11:51:19 PM

All this will do is increase meat prices. No to E15.
Dragnet
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 11:50:17 PM

Lots of politics involved in forcing this onto the public
mstearno
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 11:49:51 PM

no thanks
CivicMA
Champion Author Boston

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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 11:49:22 PM

Yes, it is a major concern but the EPA seems to be ignoring science and complaints of damage to engines anyway.
rawdog1313
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 11:48:55 PM

Can you say Problems of the future?
prassu2012
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 11:47:09 PM

no idea here
nimpy
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 11:46:37 PM

ands prices
Doomsday64
All-Star Author Austin

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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 11:46:22 PM

NO ETHANOL.
jorod55
Champion Author California

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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 11:46:12 PM

The greenies are trying to secretly destroy every internal combustion engine in America.
Cause Lord knows they can't control any other country.
gasmack
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 11:44:41 PM

No E-15!
Liberty2000
Champion Author Indianapolis

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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 11:41:54 PM

More gov't stupidity.
DancingDee
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 11:41:42 PM

Totally agree with Drz614!!!!!
snagged
Veteran Author Akron

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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 11:40:04 PM

It's bad for the cars. It's bad for anybody who likes to eat.
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