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Can Leak Detection End the Pipeline Impasse?

Rig Zone -- Pipelines used to be things that were just built without blinking. It is said that there are enough pipelines now in the US to encircle the Earth 25 times with enough left over to also tie a bow around it. Today, getting a pipeline built is not so easy - there are too many environmental concerns and the industry has become highly polarized. But here's one thing that could bring everyone together: pipeline safety technology. And it's something we all want, especially for those who live along the thousands of miles of aging pipeline routes that carry hazardous liquids.

Spawned by research that started in space, remote-sensing technology designed to detect dangerous leaks in pipelines has the potential to provide the neutral ground for decisions to be made and consensus to be formed. The


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Submitted Feb 12, 2013 By: mastermariner
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endymion
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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2013 9:28:29 AM

Are there ways to detect pipes that are at risk of leaking before the leak starts?
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RAE344
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Message Posted: Feb 13, 2013 12:43:07 AM

If a leak is detected, it is too late.
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SammyAdams
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 9:02:08 PM

From the article: "James Stafford: Would regulations governing pipeline safety actually boost support for Keystone XL?

Adrian Banica: Personally, I don't think so. The most vocal opposition for Keystone comes from the side of the environmental movement that does not want to see the pipelines build in order to decrease our overall dependence on oil rather than their concern for spills. So it is a philosophical position based on decreasing CO2 emissions rather than one based on spills in the environment which will not be appeased by regulations.

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Pipelines already have the best safety record for transmission of crude oil. So if you cannot appease the "greenies" with an even SAFER safety record, then their argument must come from a philosophical perspective. This is tantamount to expecting a leopard to change his spots. Ain't gonna happen.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 5:39:16 PM

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endymion
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 5:11:16 PM

The technology is out there...but where is the government enforcement of the existing DOT regulations?
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sydb7
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 4:49:35 PM

Pipelines need better monitoring other than a passerby calling and saying "your pipeline is leaking"!!
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 12:22:47 PM

This should make it safe and a 'go'
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2granny
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 11:16:56 AM

Safety first. If it will save the earth and water supply go for it. " The clincher: This technology is not only affordable -it saves money and could eventually save the industry."
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:56:13 AM

It is a cross check where prior inspections using pigging weren't done correctly. Down side is that it only works AFTER the leak has started and you have a much higher risk level 10X or more. It does eliminate management errors in assessing pipeline weaknesses. Does not improve safety on high pressure 1080PSI lines where if you have a leak you are only minutes away from a blowout.

Jeff pressure drops only detect leaks when they reduce the line pack faster than compressors or pumps replenish the leak. That is only after you have a catastrophic failure of the line. I can think of 17 people in the Monroe Louisiana area who might be still alive if your theory worked.

[Edited by: nsdp at 2/12/2013 11:00:39 AM EST]
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Jeff4U
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:54:52 AM

1. They can already detect leaks from noticing changes in pressure.
2. EnviroNazis will always find ways to sabotage progress.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:51:12 AM

Nope.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:43:03 AM

Safety is important
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:36:21 AM

Considering how long pipelines have been around, I'm really surprised they waited this long to realize that leak detectors are a mandatory necessity.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:23:22 AM

there will still be a 6-12 hour spill window before a leak can be repaired.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:20:16 AM

What a really interesting way of detecting leaks... and aging pipelines will be the ones that leak the most (both in frequency and severity)... worst part of aging pipelines is that most are in high risk areas with large population densities because that is where they were first installed...
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:18:19 AM

You would think that they could do better finding the leaks.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:15:56 AM


I thought they already had a way of detesting leaks?
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:15:11 AM

Depends on how reliable it is...
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:14:06 AM

LONG AGO,someone invented pipeline PIGS, that travelled through the pipes to discover leaks, notify the repair crew, and get the damage corrected.

HOWEVER... if ya don't USE them, they serve NO PURPOSE.



[Edited by: Wolfwings at 2/12/2013 10:14:55 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:12:19 AM

SHOULD
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:11:28 AM

I hope it works.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:10:28 AM

Hopefully
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:09:36 AM

Can you tell me of just one leak that is not dangerous????
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:09:29 AM

Good to see that technology is available.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:07:18 AM

It surely should help.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:07:10 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:06:52 AM

Whenever you have government involved, you are going to have leaks... even if they are siphoned off.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:05:45 AM

If there's a drop in pressure, and it doesn't go back up, you might have a leak. Sorted.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:05:21 AM

OK
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:05:18 AM

The pipeline delays are because of dumbunny Obama.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:05:06 AM

There is always decay, and it makes things used, like pipelines, more valunerable to problems. Have a leak in a pipeline can be a high cost, just like it was for BP in the Gulf of Mexico leak. It would be best to these things in shape before its too late.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:04:12 AM

Sounds like a good ideaa to me but will probably be rejected by the Democrats and EcoNazis.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:03:47 AM

Good safety measure.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:03:22 AM

I suspect this type of technology has been around for some time however by the time it takes to respond the damage has already been done.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:02:57 AM

It will help a lot.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:02:56 AM

Hard to argue against pipeline safety.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:02:48 AM

Detecting a leak isn't the same as preventing a leak....
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:02:46 AM

"BHO & enviro wacko buddies will stop progress in it's tracks, slow down production....."

Kind of ironic that oil production has increased significantly since Obama became President. It had declined all eight years under the previous administration.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:02:39 AM

Better leak detection would be great!
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:02:15 AM

replace the old pipelines...
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:02:07 AM

safety is paramount here.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:01:42 AM

ok
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:00:49 AM

Maybe I should invest in leak detection technology to revive my 401K.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 10:00:45 AM

Safety first is always a good plan
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 9:59:43 AM

will it make a difference?
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treehood
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 9:57:00 AM

That is assuming leaks are the cause of the pipeline impasse.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 9:56:30 AM

Hopefully it will make a difference.
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 9:56:30 AM

Sounds good to me
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 9:56:07 AM

red tape
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Message Posted: Feb 12, 2013 9:55:15 AM

This would limit environmental damage.
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