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Boeing 787 Batteries Same As Those In Electric Cars? Umm, NO

Greencarreports -- Gird yourself: It's possible we're about to see a new wave of attacks on electric cars that ignore battery science.

This time the culprit is the troubled Boeing 787 Dreamliner aircraft. The FAA has grounded all 787s after a string of fires in their lithium-ion battery packs; other countries have done the same.

Which has led at least one supposedly authoritative commentator to say that Boeing is having the same battery problems as those "that have shown up in electric cars."

The problem is that the two types of batteries are, in fact, quite different.

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Submitted Jan 19, 2013 By: BennoBlue

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SkooterG Champion Author Phoenix Posts:1,359 Points:328,585 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:46:11 PM Ignore SkooterG Report Abuse What an idiot from St. Louis University.
jrs4125 Champion Author Indiana Posts:2,753 Points:590,770 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 11:24:57 AM Ignore jrs4125 Report Abuse Gas and oil are not going to give up their monopoly on energy easily.
101Speedster Champion Author Ventura Posts:30,413 Points:2,715,695 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 11:05:58 AM Ignore 101Speedster Report Abuse Boeing is still a good investment.
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gs7101 Champion Author San Antonio Posts:5,518 Points:387,695 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 8:34:56 AM Ignore gs7101 Report Abuse Don't believe the hype!
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CCLighthouse Champion Author Hartford Posts:1,003 Points:213,030 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:42:38 AM Ignore CCLighthouse Report Abuse It is a note worthy article. Problem is we are being worried to death with every and anything. : (
Lairre Champion Author Sacramento Posts:3,005 Points:187,160 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:41:29 AM Ignore Lairre Report Abuse The 787 and problems seem to go hand-in-hand.
NAVYHM All-Star Author Cleveland Posts:761 Points:1,384,955 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:40:07 AM Ignore NAVYHM Report Abuse YOU ALL ARE MISINFORMED AGAIN... BOEING'S LITHIUM-ION BATTERIES ALONE ARE NOT THE PROBLEM... THE CONFIGURATION MANAGEMENT... HEATING/COOLING SYSTEMS... THE INITIALIZATION TRANSFERS & BYPASSES... SIZE/STORAGE/WIRING HARNESSES... SWITCHING FIRE DAMPERS... I COULD LIST THESE ALL NIGHT... AND THEY ARE 10 TIMES SMARTER THAN I AM... EACH & EVERY SYSTEM THE 787 HAS, IS A PROVEN PRODUCT... IN THEORY ALONE, THINGS SHOULD HAVE BEEN PERFECT... BUT, THE LAWS OF AERO-SPACE ENGINEERING DON'T ALLOW FOR THE UNEXPLAINED... BOEING IS THE BEST PASSENGER AIRCRAFT MANUFACTURING COMPANY IN THE WORLD... TOP TOO BOTTOM...
pa79th Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:1,777 Points:1,215,875 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:33:29 AM Ignore pa79th Report Abuse What does this have to do with the price of gasoline?
a14morfun Champion Author Ontario Posts:11,791 Points:2,075,265 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:31:44 AM Ignore a14morfun Report Abuse Too bad those planes have to be grounded. I hope they get the problem fixed quickly.
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boatfloyd Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:1,713 Points:387,000 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:30:21 AM Ignore boatfloyd Report Abuse Sounds like the battery people need to fix the problem.
Zonk Champion Author Michigan Posts:6,476 Points:2,101,790 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:30:15 AM Ignore Zonk Report Abuse Not sure I want to travel in a Boeing 787.
10k Champion Author North Carolina Posts:21,244 Points:2,253,045 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:29:18 AM Ignore 10k Report Abuse one huge difference: boeing has been, and will be, here to stay-EV's are just a waste of my tax dollars, and will be history in 10 years or less..
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rahcat Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:2,463 Points:661,975 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:26:28 AM Ignore rahcat Report Abuse The 787 has been plagued with problems for years, so what't else is new?
pyndasky Champion Author Maryland Posts:9,995 Points:1,780,830 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:26:24 AM Ignore pyndasky Report Abuse aren't Li ion batteries in most cellphones too?
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walkerms1 All-Star Author Albany Posts:960 Points:159,900 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:23:36 AM Ignore walkerms1 Report Abuse Batteries are dangerous! Diesel is the answer.
naspa Champion Author Cleveland Posts:1,266 Points:351,175 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:22:01 AM Ignore naspa Report Abuse They are the same batteries! The only difference is the casing.
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GasholeMI Champion Author Lansing Posts:10,134 Points:1,717,315 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:19:21 AM Ignore GasholeMI Report Abuse I disagree. I think they are actually quite similar--neither one seems to work as it is supposed to work.
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Blue_Cruzer Champion Author Lexington Posts:7,515 Points:1,668,610 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:16:40 AM Ignore Blue_Cruzer Report Abuse I hope they get this problem solved quickly.
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bby Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:5,719 Points:1,020,945 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:16:21 AM Ignore bby Report Abuse Li ion batteries are very efficient, but they need to be tested thoroughly.
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