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BMW, Boeing Join Forces In Carbon Fiber Recycling Research

Translogic -- For manufacturers looking to shave weight from a product, carbon fiber has become the material du jour. Carbon fiber's high strength-to-weight ratio is a property that everyone from Boeing to BMW finds appealing. But these benefits come at a cost, both financially and environmentally.
Carbon fiber tops the list of alternatives to high-strength steel and aluminum, but unlike alloys, waste from the carbon fiber manufacturing process can't be melted down and used again. For now, it seems there's no cost effective way to recycle the material.

BMW and Boeing are hoping to change that. The automaker and aerospace company look to join forces to find a more sustainable life cycle for carbon fiber manufacturing.

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Submitted Dec 13, 2012 By: BennoBlue

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,590 Points:1,606,595 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Dec 15, 2012 7:52:27 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse good. Hope it leads to good success.
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sydb7 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,547 Points:1,917,805 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 8:19:53 PM Ignore sydb7 Report Abuse There has got to be a use for carbon fiber byproducts!
genoist Veteran Author Orlando Posts:341 Points:165,470 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 11:23:53 AM Ignore genoist Report Abuse A small car, made with carbon fiber, run by a hybrid engine = awesome mileage!
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mitchells Champion Author Montreal Posts:3,851 Points:1,122,310 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 10:02:25 AM Ignore mitchells Report Abuse lets hope they can lower the price of CF
humblepie Champion Author Toledo Posts:34,101 Points:2,368,445 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 9:46:09 AM Ignore humblepie Report Abuse neeto jet eh ?
SmokeFan14 Champion Author St. Louis Posts:2,118 Points:1,084,865 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 9:38:34 AM Ignore SmokeFan14 Report Abuse Allrighty Then!!
w4kh Champion Author Tennessee Posts:11,655 Points:2,226,065 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 9:33:10 AM Ignore w4kh Report Abuse I do not understand the chemistry of carbon fiber, but just based upon the name "carbon fiber" it would seem that chemically breaking the fiber down into carbon and the other components wouldn't be that difficult - then again, diamonds are carbon, and not easy to break down. Good luck BMW and Boeing.
unipanini All-Star Author New York Posts:903 Points:264,575 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 9:32:38 AM Ignore unipanini Report Abuse Cool!
QualTekGuy Champion Author Illinois Posts:3,051 Points:730,925 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 9:20:49 AM Ignore QualTekGuy Report Abuse How does this affect the price at the pump?
Sethyl Champion Author Miami Posts:1,738 Points:374,540 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 9:11:10 AM Ignore Sethyl Report Abuse first, does this affect gas prices? they aren't recycling the materials they produce, but the waste from the production. examply: leftover chicken parts go into hot dogs, but where can these byproducts go for good use?
goalie1950 Champion Author Phoenix Posts:6,395 Points:1,293,495 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 9:09:38 AM Ignore goalie1950 Report Abuse Recyclability of any raw material is an important issue to consider. You can't keep burying "stuff" in a land fill.
Costello Champion Author South Dakota Posts:1,396 Points:1,151,515 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 9:06:07 AM Ignore Costello Report Abuse All forces working together
cableman31 Champion Author New York Posts:8,818 Points:2,013,875 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 9:05:27 AM Ignore cableman31 Report Abuse Carbon fiber car parts have proven greatly improved safety in race cars.
leraar2 Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:3,749 Points:784,755 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 9:04:32 AM Ignore leraar2 Report Abuse carbon fiber GOO.
FusionCa All-Star Author Phoenix Posts:777 Points:546,010 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 9:01:14 AM Ignore FusionCa Report Abuse Sounds Like A Bad Idea!
survken Champion Author Indiana Posts:2,472 Points:435,855 Joined:Jul 2010	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 8:57:54 AM Ignore survken Report Abuse Good for them.
Marson Champion Author Scranton Posts:8,932 Points:2,075,235 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 8:57:37 AM Ignore Marson Report Abuse The stuff is basically glue and fiber, so it is not easy to take apart!
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mreiff Champion Author Louisville Posts:5,335 Points:1,300,765 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 8:55:42 AM Ignore mreiff Report Abuse This is a dilemma for many new highly engineered materials.
Bullseye520 Champion Author Louisville Posts:2,182 Points:664,465 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 8:54:27 AM Ignore Bullseye520 Report Abuse Alright, I believe we need more research!
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freedomsailor Champion Author Naples Posts:2,114 Points:407,745 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 8:50:38 AM Ignore freedomsailor Report Abuse Use the waste to pave our roads.
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Eagle3236 Champion Author Missouri Posts:1,133 Points:206,250 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 8:49:55 AM Ignore Eagle3236 Report Abuse We will find an effective way to recycle! Also will cost much less in future freight costs.
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driveonby1 Champion Author Toledo Posts:1,507 Points:256,665 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 8:48:57 AM Ignore driveonby1 Report Abuse yep, we'll be able to carry our cars to park them on their sides in the garage.
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Rhino8of8 Champion Author Wisconsin Posts:1,240 Points:371,915 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 8:48:17 AM Ignore Rhino8of8 Report Abuse I never realized carbon fiber wasn't recycleable
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SpruceGuse2 Champion Author Michigan Posts:9,719 Points:2,451,760 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 8:45:59 AM Ignore SpruceGuse2 Report Abuse About time.........................
LJGP_MO95 Champion Author Missouri Posts:1,753 Points:478,980 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 8:42:59 AM Ignore LJGP_MO95 Report Abuse Poor article. Why can't it be recycled?
tndirtydawg Champion Author Memphis Posts:1,143 Points:645,790 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 8:40:51 AM Ignore tndirtydawg Report Abuse As usual, cost v. savings, recylcing.
pacoinindy Veteran Author Indianapolis Posts:435 Points:249,550 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 8:40:48 AM Ignore pacoinindy Report Abuse I think Congress should provide millions of dollars to Boing so they could do an extensive study in order to find inconclusive results.
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Banjoe Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:4,223 Points:611,260 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 8:38:02 AM Ignore Banjoe Report Abuse Carbon sequestering is another advantage of carbon fiber use.
RochBear Champion Author Minnesota Posts:10,449 Points:1,738,915 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 8:37:06 AM Ignore RochBear Report Abuse I am sure they can come up with a way to do this. Just need to get the Chemists involved.
85XJ Champion Author Toledo Posts:5,582 Points:1,277,840 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 8:37:01 AM Ignore 85XJ Report Abuse Keep doing the research. We need to recycle more. I can see the day in the future when we start mining our garbage dumps for recycleables.