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2013 Ford Fusion and C-Max Hybrid EPA ratings don’t hold up in the real world

Digital Trends -- The 2013 Ford Fusion and C-Max hybrids are two of the best cars on the market when it comes to fuel economy, according to the Environmental Protection Agency. However, magazine road testers, and customers, are having trouble achieving the same lofty mpg numbers in real world circumstances.
Both the Fusion sedan and C-Max hatchback are powered by a 2.0-liter, four-cylinder gasoline engine and an electric motor with lithium-ion battery pack. The powertrain produces a combined 188 horsepower in both cars and is rated at 47 mpg in all three EPA categories (city, highway, combined) in both cars.
Green Car Reports tested the C-Max twice, once at a Ford media event, and once unescorted. The magazine reports that, the first time, the C-Max could only muster 37 mpg over 50 miles of mixed freeway...


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honda0105
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 5:33:51 AM

EPA and Cafe Standards have always been bogus. Never been based on real life figures.
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blupupher
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Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 8:28:22 AM

so sue them like some are trying with Hyundai/Kia.
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tomok
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Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 5:26:20 AM

2013 Ford Fusion and C-Max Hybrid EPA ratings don’t hold up in the real world? It's the foreign car curse, overstate the mpg rating higher than what it actually is. Refer to: the EPA, Hyundia, and Kia for instructions.
Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, vehicle manufactures Produce and the population ‘Drives’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money.
The price of fuel at the pump is too high!
XII/XXII/MMXII!
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iFueler
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Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 2:05:54 AM

another report of mileage estimate not matching expectation
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VikingWoman
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Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 1:37:58 AM

Mileage claims are as good as weight-loss product claims - the fine print usually reads something like "results not typical."
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RevDrCBJ
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Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 12:16:58 AM

Right
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bvrbill
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Message Posted: Dec 6, 2012 12:04:28 AM

All of the mpg claims are inflated.
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melvindale
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:59:42 PM

EPA ratings never hold up. Unless you actually drive just like the test cycle. Then again, some people get better mileage. (Ever hear of a hyper-miler?)
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serrog
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:55:36 PM

Never do
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southrob
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:55:02 PM

dhan d
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Gassed01
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:52:39 PM

Are Ford's mileage claims exaggerated like Hyundai's? The others are doing to too, so relax. Nobody ever gets the EPA figures unless they're driving continually downhill with the wind behind them.
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BoerneWatch
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:52:38 PM

After driving the 2012 F-150 with the eco-boost and not getting over 16 mpg while on the highway, I tend to agree.
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SavALot
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:51:29 PM

Probably falsified to generate more interest
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Honda_919_Biker
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:51:25 PM

It's all about driving habits.

My 2010 Fusion (NOT a hybrid) with a 2.5L 4cyl stickered at 34 mpg hwy.
I have owned it for just over 3 years and I get about 38 mpg REAL LIFE mileage on highway. Combined mpg for daily use gets about 32 mpg.

When my wife drives it, fuel economy is reduced by about 10%.

If you step on the gas more, you burn more fuel. It's pretty much that simple.
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silverfox63
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:50:11 PM

This is a huge difference. Out companies could be held accountable for their false claims.
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texashoudini
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:47:27 PM

10 mpg is a drastic difference.
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bhb2009
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:46:52 PM

government regulations...
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NAVYHM
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:42:55 PM

WHO'S DOES THESE DAYS... EVERYONE ONLY NEEDS TOO HERE WHAT THE SELLS PITCH IS UNTIL THE CAR IS SOLD... AND IT'S NOT JUST FORD... BY A MILE, IT'S NOT JUST FORD...
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bobdec
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:39:11 PM

No suprise
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:35:57 PM

i thought everyone knew this
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Spankster85
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:35:22 PM

I think Ford and the EPA are stretching out those numbers a little far. And if those are the numbers the cars are displaying on their dashes, I assure you the real fuel economy is a good 1 or 2 miles per gallon lower.
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:34:15 PM

check that.
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Piggy1959
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:33:59 PM

Haven't we reviewed these complaints about these over-inflated numbers before? Wasn't there threats of lawsuits, too?
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:29:03 PM

Not just true of hybrids. Nearly all of the car mileage stickers are never-never land. Get ride of the EPA.
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:29:02 PM

The're working it
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:28:30 PM

Isn'nt that an interesting twist...
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:28:20 PM

Not a ford fan...
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nwsynthetics
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:27:31 PM

You would have to have the right speed and conditions. Now with mega freeways, high speed you are not going to get 47. I notice in my truck keeping it 65 or below on highway(hard when its 70/75 speed zone) you see better mileage. Any car that gets over 20mpg is fine in my book
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:24:50 PM

Right on suzmar . . . you expressed it well.
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KhelbenArunson
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:22:45 PM

Hmmm how could this have happened. lol.
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:21:20 PM

no shock there
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suzmar
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:20:31 PM

As most consumers find out, stickers advertised mileage can not be duplicated in real life situations.
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mcmonsta
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:18:23 PM

is this surprising? don't think you need to look too far to see if everyones car hits the epa rating
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WIPACKERFAN
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:17:48 PM

No surprise. These are just under ideal conditions. We dont do that on our roads.
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:15:25 PM

????? Guv'mint
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dasimon
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:12:37 PM

Go figure
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:12:04 PM

Go Ford!!!
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:10:39 PM

Shame on the EPA. If they put out fogures they should be able to back them up and prove them.
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:10:26 PM

Do EPA ratings hold up in the real world for most cars?
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:09:20 PM

ok
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:02:33 PM

Go Toytoa
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 10:56:24 PM

THE TOYOTA PRIUS HYBRID IS THE BEST OF ALL HYBRIDS.........PERIOD.
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 10:55:40 PM

Ok
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 10:55:10 PM

ok.
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 10:53:07 PM

really
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Bearworld
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 10:49:43 PM

I have always heard that [you pay more for these cars and even with the fuel savings you never make up the difference.
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 10:49:41 PM

BAD NEWS FOR THE BLUE OVAL!
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 10:49:36 PM

interesting and metro's got the same mpg without the batterypack
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 10:46:44 PM

None of the ratings represent real life driving.
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 10:45:20 PM

I tend to believe they dont do that much testing as the magazine does.
different testing for different drivers
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 10:43:34 PM

The auto industry needs to be held accountable when they do not live up to their advertising.
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