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U.S. deserves candor, transparency from refineries

GasBuddy Blog -- In GasBuddy’s ‘2012: Year in Review’ we noted that virtually all of the retail gasoline price volatility that Americans experienced this past year was connected to significant problems at refineries.

It was those refineries’ vulnerability that subjected U.S. consumers to the year’s highest average price ever, $3.63 per gallon.

February delivered the BP refinery fire in Cherry Point, WA and that led to gasoline price spikes all along the Pacific coast.
The spring of 2012 brought refinery problems in the Great Lakes region that pushed Chicago gas prices to an all-time high of $4.56 per gallon. Should we expect more transparency from refineries than they ordinarily demonstrate?

Over the summer, West...

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Submitted Jan 23, 2013 By: PD

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,811 Points:1,635,270 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jan 26, 2013 5:55:01 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse Pig Oil + transparency = paradoxical oxymoronic truth?
coyotegirl1 Rookie Author Illinois Posts:43 Points:126,325 Joined:Dec 2012	Message Posted: Jan 25, 2013 1:27:33 AM Ignore coyotegirl1 Report Abuse I'm so relieved to see that so far, our gas price's have remained stable in Illinois. Since Los Angelos gas prices went at an average of $4.72 a gallon last October, I don't know how they are able to tolerate this? I guess that they have no choice but to pay for what they need.
goldrose1 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:11,059 Points:1,947,655 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 9:15:37 PM Ignore goldrose1 Report Abuse If oil company has disruption to it's production tell news outlets. Have a plan so customers aren't impacted more than necessary. Business do your job. Tell the public directly. Fewer people involved, less taxpayer supported news people. Why does the government have to control our news? It's different issue that involved agencies need to be informed for cleanups, etc. Skip this drama!
mswillia Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:2,736 Points:581,820 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 3:57:39 PM Ignore mswillia Report Abuse supply and demand. If there is demand, they will supply.
Bigtex09 Champion Author Dallas Posts:4,417 Points:1,184,915 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 12:32:26 PM Ignore Bigtex09 Report Abuse no transparency in this administration
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:33,553 Points:2,371,260 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 12:15:01 PM Ignore tomok Report Abuse U.S. deserves candor, transparency from refineries and Big Oil/Gas! The refineries continue to produce fuel when they are 'shut down,' on a maintenance upgrade or for any number of other reasons. Big Oil and Big Gas sells fuel and natural gas on the world market for higher prices. The US ‘oil and natural gas resources’ belong to the citizens of this country and are to be used by those same citizens! The price at the pump needs to go down to $2/gallon - $3, $3.50/gallon or *$4.00 is Not the new low! More Refineries are Not the answer, the answer is Stop Exporting Fuel! Take care of the domestic market first! Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, vehicle manufactures Produce and the population ‘Drives’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe, reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! XII/XXII/MMXII! - The Day After......
ssect8 Champion Author Hartford Posts:8,121 Points:2,117,055 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 12:11:30 PM Ignore ssect8 Report Abuse There is too much government regulation as it is, we need less NOT more.
getalong All-Star Author California Posts:886 Points:162,745 Joined:Aug 2007	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:41:34 AM Ignore getalong Report Abuse Wz are you trying to say the Obama administrations is the only party that hides anything? Are you guys plain crazy or do you think we don't pay attention to the news? Geeze get your head out of your elephants donkey!
Costello Champion Author South Dakota Posts:1,524 Points:1,179,850 Joined:Jan 2007	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:39:04 AM Ignore Costello Report Abuse Need more refinery's!!!
us30ride Champion Author Fort Wayne Posts:3,460 Points:738,385 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:37:45 AM Ignore us30ride Report Abuse Like no one ever thought about that.
Samo1961 Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:2,025 Points:646,425 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:31:43 AM Ignore Samo1961 Report Abuse Did anyone confirm their stories?, oil companies are well known for their exaggerations.
Tutootin Champion Author Toronto Posts:10,251 Points:3,103,180 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:30:02 AM Ignore Tutootin Report Abuse Probably maintenance funds being redirected to profits.
Billbop Champion Author St. Louis Posts:2,787 Points:1,458,215 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:27:49 AM Ignore Billbop Report Abuse They've spent billions of profits in stock by backs, increasing the value of the stock since there is less out there for the consumer. Rather than upgrade their facilities they just spend millions buying nut bag politicians to tell us wind, solar, and electrification of cars are a bad thing to keep us on the oil addiction.
OnEmptyMO Champion Author St. Louis Posts:5,090 Points:1,513,745 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:26:46 AM Ignore OnEmptyMO Report Abuse And now that you mention it, prices are going up today in this area.
indyjim Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:10,257 Points:2,345,180 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:26:21 AM Ignore indyjim Report Abuse Those were excuses to rationalize the gouging increase in pricing.
briinnc Champion Author North Carolina Posts:2,705 Points:834,820 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:26:03 AM Ignore briinnc Report Abuse Yes, would be nice across all sides of business (and Govt.).
bearzz Champion Author California Posts:1,563 Points:444,670 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:26:02 AM Ignore bearzz Report Abuse Uhhh . . . and we don't have new refineries because . . . government I believe.
exd121 Champion Author Ottawa Posts:1,903 Points:480,575 Joined:Sep 2010	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:25:33 AM Ignore exd121 Report Abuse prices are up here
jcotaxi Champion Author South Bend Posts:1,863 Points:380,915 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:25:16 AM Ignore jcotaxi Report Abuse Maybe some day we'll get transparency from our government agencies?!?!?!
UncaLar Champion Author Indiana Posts:1,936 Points:410,925 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:25:12 AM Ignore UncaLar Report Abuse "significant problems at refineries"? Let's expand, shall we: significant problems at refineries with poor quality control and CEOs needing more cash in their pockets.
prorodeo2012 All-Star Author Bakersfield Posts:539 Points:187,395 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:24:12 AM Ignore prorodeo2012 Report Abuse yes new refinaries
RochBear Champion Author Minnesota Posts:10,544 Points:1,757,285 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:23:59 AM Ignore RochBear Report Abuse and between the EPA and NIMBY, we haven't built any new refineries in Decades.
msgt_usa Champion Author Virginia Posts:3,599 Points:955,755 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:23:44 AM Ignore msgt_usa Report Abuse A refinery can manufacture a problem in order to boost the price.
rawdog1313 Champion Author Lexington Posts:3,434 Points:1,669,530 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:22:59 AM Ignore rawdog1313 Report Abuse Need new and refurbished refineries!
karlet Veteran Author Pittsburgh Posts:258 Points:84,490 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:22:18 AM Ignore karlet Report Abuse I know they are ot going to build new refineries, but can't they at least sink some money into these old ones to update them and maybe prevent some of these "accidents" from happening?
Paul1955 Champion Author Evansville Posts:1,209 Points:428,080 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:21:19 AM Ignore Paul1955 Report Abuse Ok
FusionCa All-Star Author Phoenix Posts:917 Points:574,460 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:20:39 AM Ignore FusionCa Report Abuse OK.
sleuth696 Champion Author Ventura Posts:1,063 Points:228,215 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:20:04 AM Ignore sleuth696 Report Abuse The American people deserve candor, transparency from their government
gasjockey70124 Rookie Author New Orleans Posts:37 Points:328,390 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:19:55 AM Ignore gasjockey70124 Report Abuse Maybe the oil companies should channel some of their billions in profits to udating and enlarging the refineries.
Soglaos Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:2,846 Points:763,680 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:19:33 AM Ignore Soglaos Report Abuse As they say Whatever
pricechecker08 Champion Author Ohio Posts:8,006 Points:1,726,450 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:19:11 AM Ignore pricechecker08 Report Abuse Excuses
geoutpb Champion Author Midland Odessa Posts:4,708 Points:1,083,185 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:18:52 AM Ignore geoutpb Report Abuse RefineryS are a dangerous place to work.
GasSpy007 Champion Author New York City Posts:1,953 Points:514,075 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:17:27 AM Ignore GasSpy007 Report Abuse yawn..
gasman50 Champion Author Portland Posts:8,973 Points:2,435,215 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:16:11 AM Ignore gasman50 Report Abuse Refineries have more than enough regulations now.........
Car54BC08 Champion Author British Columbia Posts:4,384 Points:1,536,090 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:16:10 AM Ignore Car54BC08 Report Abuse Only if we could have transparency of the politicians first.
Kleen Kar Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:15,907 Points:3,259,620 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:13:14 AM Ignore Kleen Kar Report Abuse Ya, good luck with that!!!
spmaudio Champion Author Chicago Posts:3,868 Points:749,870 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:13:04 AM Ignore spmaudio Report Abuse From reading the first three paragraphs of this article, I'd say we need refineries that can break their nasty habits of having accidents and disasters!
wz Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:2,615 Points:1,302,985 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:12:28 AM Ignore wz Report Abuse With a hostile press - looking for any news to make oil companies look bad, there is little wonder why they are reluctant to be forthcoming. Kind of like the Obama administration hiding their secrets before the election.
TRAIN RIDER Champion Author San Bernardino Posts:9,212 Points:2,783,570 Joined:Oct 2004	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:11:23 AM Ignore TRAIN RIDER Report Abuse They are taking after the Obama administration, no transparency.
ggg452 Champion Author Manitoba Posts:1,700 Points:357,575 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:11:15 AM Ignore ggg452 Report Abuse Need to enforce penalties if there isn't full disclosure... rules are in place, its enforcement that is needed.
vwilsonskis All-Star Author New Jersey Posts:863 Points:263,760 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:10:22 AM Ignore vwilsonskis Report Abuse yes they should let us know what is going on!
oldforger Veteran Author Calgary Posts:460 Points:379,950 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:09:08 AM Ignore oldforger Report Abuse ok
JLSindy Champion Author Cleveland Posts:3,602 Points:697,290 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:08:17 AM Ignore JLSindy Report Abuse Transparency and candor from big oil - surely you jest!
Digger52 Champion Author Chicago Posts:2,532 Points:873,710 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:07:36 AM Ignore Digger52 Report Abuse Supply and demand - their refinery goes down, their profits go up. . .
rrs517 Champion Author Colorado Posts:1,055 Points:370,230 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:07:13 AM Ignore rrs517 Report Abuse Candor from the refineries? We treat refineries like the enemy. When was there a new refinery built? I believe some 25 30 years ago.
vernsimpson Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:1,142 Points:285,530 Joined:Jul 2012	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:06:11 AM Ignore vernsimpson Report Abuse Build more refineries! We have not built on in almost 40 years! Get the EPA and obummer off their backs!!!!
kuma2000 Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,353 Points:699,900 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:04:52 AM Ignore kuma2000 Report Abuse It all boils down to profits.
packards42 Champion Author Washington Posts:6,535 Points:1,147,920 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:04:29 AM Ignore packards42 Report Abuse It almost limited capacity as the marginal refineries are shutdown to avoid massive environmental upgrades.
Martillo Champion Author Dallas Posts:1,717 Points:754,600 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:04:20 AM Ignore Martillo Report Abuse ok
eagle_scout Champion Author St. Louis Posts:7,740 Points:1,538,175 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 11:00:13 AM Ignore eagle_scout Report Abuse How about more refineries to demand transperency from? :D