gs7101

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2013 7:37:43 AM
These gas guzzlers definitely need improvements.
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edwardj66

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2013 12:58:16 PM
About time.... Work for improvement on the worst offenders... Those with lowest mpg"s
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Edger

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Pittsburgh
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Message Posted: Jan 10, 2013 4:50:02 PM
"Ford is aiming at people who WANT TO DRIVE a Truck, BUT NEVER HAUL Anything actually Crowd." Ford knows this crowd are the ones who can afford the $35,000+ trucks. The higher fuel mileage is an enticement, along with aluminum body panels!
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mcbrownie220

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Jan 10, 2013 12:21:52 AM
hmmm
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LeftLane1

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Georgia
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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 7:04:24 PM
IF you read the actual article, it MIGHT NOT boost sales for Ford, the article states how Ford is going with weaker, lighter, thinner materials and with a V-6 focus for the future. The V-6 Ecoboost is not a bad engine, it will move the EMPTY lighter truck fairly well I hope(it moves small sedans better), but GM(Chevrolet & GMC), Dodge(RAM), Toyota, et al are still pushing the "tougher, stronger and nicer" truck concepts, so this is a gamble.
Toyota lost out with it's whimpy orginal T-100 which was a simular dud until it "beefed up, powered up and improved" so lets hope Ford isn't going backward.
Ford is aiming at people who WANT TO DRIVE a Truck, BUT NEVER HAUL Anything actually Crowd.
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gravityhurts

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 8:44:25 AM
Only 3 mpg.
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52MPG

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Dayton
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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 5:55:37 AM
3 extra MPG does not impress me.
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Billrusty

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Washington
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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 3:31:48 AM
chevy still rules.
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alterman156

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New York
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 9:03:16 PM
Hope Ford will be able to improve the fuel economy in their F-series pickups.
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sillywagon

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New York
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 8:39:35 PM
Just don't ruin a well functioning pickup truck. Many people who work, need a truck that isn't dinky.
I remember reading that Ford got rid of the Ranger in North America because the "redesigned" Ranger was too simular to a base F-150. And that most purchasers of Rangers were fleet purchasers, people who didn't need a truck, and people who bought on low price.
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BobBG

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Albany
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 8:36:17 PM
It would be nice to see the return of small pickups.
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xB33

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 6:46:25 PM
Bring back the Ford Ranger - it got much better mileage.
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Digger52

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 4:39:21 PM
OK
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bell05

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 4:29:15 PM
Well go Ford!
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Titanic1985

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 2:50:06 PM
The mandated EPA CAFE of 54.0 MPG by 2025 is one step closer with Ford's redesign. Some of the ideas mentioned (e.g. reduced weight by using lighter materials, improved aerodynamics, etc.) are long overdue. It is a positive step as pickup trucks are an integral part of American culture and considered necessary by many households. This change in ideology between Ford & GM should prove interesting in the marketplace.
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t_flor

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 2:48:01 PM
Wow I didn't read that correctly! I thought it said hiking its mileage to 3 mph!
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Edger

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Pittsburgh
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 2:41:10 PM
A 15 to 20 percent fuel economy increase and less body rust due to an increase in aluminum useage sounds great to me.
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dieselfiendSC

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 2:40:22 PM
Yes, people buy trucks to be able to haul and tow not to get great fuel mileage. If they can do both (doubt it) great.
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GRUMPY55

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California
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 2:39:51 PM
Dodge already gets 25 mpg, so why brag.
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GatorGuy

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Columbia
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 2:39:48 PM
Thanks to the government, soon trucks won't be trucks, but square sedans.
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CPGas1815

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 2:36:03 PM
I agree JEP39. Ford SUCKS!!
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jep39

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California
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 2:31:20 PM
I have never been happy with a Ford.
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kd5kpd

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Texas
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 2:30:37 PM
Good but still needs to be better.
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USMC_0411

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California
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 2:29:56 PM
Ok
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caddilac

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 2:29:27 PM
WOW, a whole 3 mpg more.
And they have the audacity to brag about a miniscule 3 mpg improvement?
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rf6480

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Miami
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 2:28:14 PM
I widh they could have figured out how to improve mileage in the little Ranger pickup before they killed the great seller off. Newer model still got less than 20. I have never gotten the posted 19.
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Harry813

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Iowa
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 2:27:41 PM
Well... It's a start ...
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KarateDude

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 2:22:32 PM
At 15% it implies that a F-150 is already getting 20MPG. I wish my F-150 was getting that... I'm lucky if I can get above 14MPG on the highway!
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thebigv

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Ottawa
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 2:21:48 PM
so what will that be real life?
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FogCitySpotter

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San Francisco
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 2:21:24 PM
Finally
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kingpin6

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Arkansas
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 2:21:21 PM
Always happy to see manufacturers working on improving fuel mileage. They already have the technology needed to get all vehicles up to 20-25 MPG, but part of the problem is that the cost is too high to do it, so consumers aren't willing to pay the much higher prices.
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Tralp

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 2:19:28 PM
all they need to do is adjust the electronics and they can improve them 30-40%.
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JLSindy

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 2:19:14 PM
The little Ford Ranger they made did have great gas mileage and was well loved - so we quit making that one - go figure!
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Zygnatz

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British Columbia
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 2:16:43 PM
I wonder how the lighter components will stand up.
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indyjim

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 2:15:22 PM
Maybe if Obama would increase taxes on gas guzzlers, causing sales to drop, then car manufacturers would do something about it.
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Darwin00

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Mississippi
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 2:14:45 PM
I agree with bigmace111.
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mrreferee

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Savannah
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 2:14:19 PM
How about trying alternative fuel, like CNG or hydrogen...?
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bigmace111

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Albany
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 2:11:34 PM
Not enough, they should improve by 5 to 10 mpg.
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95Vette

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Missouri
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 2:10:04 PM
Still needs to improve some more...
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txrojo2005

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Austin
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 2:07:33 PM
Keep improving
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EVBuddy

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Nevada
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 2:04:14 PM
Still below average
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oldiesman

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New York
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 1:52:32 PM
Go Ford!
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BeaconLite

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Ottawa
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 1:51:28 PM
They need to compete with GM and Chrysler.
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larharris2

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Tennessee
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 1:50:54 PM
Good.
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furiousfowl

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Riverside
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 1:50:23 PM
cool
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RQCraig

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Texas
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 1:50:03 PM
Love it!
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JoeKR

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 1:49:50 PM
Maybe that will boost the national mpg to 23.1!
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rbrowdersr

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 1:49:16 PM
Hope others follow their direction.
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Chitowner

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Omaha
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 1:48:18 PM
sweet
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nicemac

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Tennessee
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 1:47:56 PM
But will all of the aluminum panels protect the driver as well as steel in event of a crash?
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