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EPA says Hyundai & Kia overstated gas mileage

GasBuddy Blog -- The AP is reporting that Hyundai and Kia overstated the gas mileage on most of their models from the past three years in an embarrassing blunder that could bring sanctions from the U.S. government and millions of dollars in payments to car owners.

To be perfectly candid, I'm one of those car owners who've been duped. When my wife & I saw highway mileage at "40 mpg" that's one of the key reasons why we bought our Hyundai Elantra.

Because of the inflated mileage, discovered during an audit by the Environmental Protection Agency, the Korean automakers must retrofit the window stickers on the cars, reducing their fuel economy figures by one-to-six miles per gallon depending on the model, the agency said.

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Submitted Nov 07, 2012 By: PD

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