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Broad access to Canadian crude is needed... beyond the Keystone pipeline

GasBuddy Blog -- If you’ve taken a look lately at retail gasoline prices across the U.S. it’s not terribly surprising to see high-tax states like New York and California with the most expensive gasoline in the country. But which states are paying the least?

Wyoming. Montana. New Mexico. Utah. Colorado. Idaho. While these states have lower fuel taxes than many others, they are also among those with access to cheaper Canadian crude oil which sells at a discount to West Texas Intermediate.

Canadian crude can greatly benefit coastal cities --if there was a way to get it there. Particularly in the northeast, refineries have struggled in recent years and capacity is further reduced with the latest closing of the Hess facility in Port Reading...


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Submitted Feb 21, 2013 By: PD
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honda0105
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Message Posted: Feb 24, 2013 7:01:21 AM

Canadian crude (tar sand oils) is one of the dirtiest out there. And damages the most resources. Keep it in Canada.
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bell013
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2013 7:12:10 AM

Old news.
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snappytom2
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 10:23:19 PM

like another hole in the head.
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SmkyPlyr984
Veteran Author Connecticut

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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 5:00:31 PM

we got plenty of oil now they cant refine,,,whats more oil going to do if you cant refine it,,, that s why gas is so high now..
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SmkyPlyr984
Veteran Author Connecticut

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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 4:47:58 PM

once the pipe is in the ground away goes the jobs..
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SmkyPlyr984
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 4:47:27 PM

if not whats the point,
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SmkyPlyr984
Veteran Author Connecticut

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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 4:47:08 PM

is it going to make gasoline cheaper ?
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91Hilux
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 3:55:13 PM

Ummm, so the lines going through Alberta to Washington and down the West Coast aren't there anymmore?
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mac007
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 3:37:59 PM

This is all a lie! Pennsylvania has better access to Canadian oil than New Mexico, and PA's gas is higher.......
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JMW1942
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 3:06:46 PM

First off Obama only voted present his whole political life. He just wants to vacation and golf at our expense. He won't do anything to benefit the masses when his goal is to destroy capitalism and redistribute the wealth so we all are the same. Intelligent hard working people that actually produce wealth for him to give to the non producers will just give him the bird and quit. A day will come when we start over much as our founders did. Read your history and you will see 1/3 were revolutionary's, 1/3 Loyalist and 1/3 who could care less.
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klw1963
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:45:18 PM

Build the pipline already. Every state has given it a thumbs up! What's taking the President so long in making up his mind? Can anyone say radical enviromentalists.
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caddilac
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:42:10 PM


I still say build the pipeline here in Canada, to both the east and west coasts.

Why should a Canadian company provide jobs for Americans when there are Canadians that need jobs????

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95Vette
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:40:31 PM

I am with cellsite... how long are they gonna kick around the keystone pipline.. Just Do It!
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Cellsite
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:37:15 PM

For cryin' out loud, build that dang pipeline already! We've had enough of the green-weenies crying and complaining.
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pitamon
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:37:04 PM

We need to ship it east to refineries out here.
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deputydog082
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:35:49 PM

the pipelines will be used to export domestic gas and oil overseas and raise prices here
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silvereb
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:35:24 PM

If we could get the government out of the
way the free market would take care of these issues!
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MrPony
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:31:36 PM

It ain't gonna happen with Osama in office!!!
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rbutterw
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:27:14 PM

Sounds reasonable
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Number43
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:27:07 PM

Gas prices are set by speculators not by supply and demand. Blame Wall street.
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slowpoke63
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:26:10 PM

Use it instead of middle east oil.
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Number43
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:25:52 PM

always better to buy from Canada than Saudi Arabia.
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Grismer
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:21:44 PM

This oil is currently regarded as more detrimental than beneficial. However, trying to change this mind set can do no harm.
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bobcatfan
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:21:10 PM

Ok.
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No1ConMan
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:19:01 PM

We would much rather see it go to China according to Chairman Barack!
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Hugo40
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:18:25 PM

You are going to pay more in the larger cities.
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Doomsday64
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:16:19 PM

do it
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Tralp
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:15:14 PM

ok
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NemoIL
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:14:31 PM

Keystone will never be built as long as Obama is in office.
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joezIN
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:10:19 PM

can't refine though, as they say.....
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gasman50
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:10:05 PM

Time will tell
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npt
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:09:14 PM

Build it with caution, keep an eye on environmental impact.
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FieroGT
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:06:25 PM

How about building a 1/2 Keystone that comes as far as MN. That way at least we might be able to get lower pump prices!
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GManCo
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:06:11 PM

It doesn't take intelligence to understand that concept.
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masker5900
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:05:19 PM

Hmm cheaper oil equals cheaper gas. Imagine that
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greenfog
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:05:11 PM

and saga of the pipelines goes on, tune in next week for the latest.

[Edited by: greenfog at 2/22/2013 2:05:39 PM EST]
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LongPlay
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:04:32 PM

We need all of the North American crude that we can get. Higher production will reduce prices.
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RQCraig
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:02:54 PM

Old
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pecos
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:00:41 PM

Ain't that the truth.
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PoyenGasHog
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 1:58:41 PM

Domestic is the way to go!
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mrreferee
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 1:49:14 PM

It is need to help lower cost to othe end used. Prices in the north are lower because of the access to the lower priced Canadian oil
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snell snail
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 1:48:38 PM

....please...it can't be this simple......
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firechief
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 1:47:31 PM

if you build it they will come
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mahkokhan
Champion Author British Columbia

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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 1:46:44 PM

keep our supply domestic, and our manufacturing and research as well!

[Edited by: mahkokhan at 2/22/2013 1:47:13 PM EST]
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pagenutt
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 1:43:24 PM

ok
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goinwgas
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 1:43:12 PM

old news
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idigau22
Champion Author Washington

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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 1:40:09 PM

Yet another Keystone pipeline article!! Will they never end, Ever!!!!!
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Double_Golden
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 1:39:14 PM

just shipped them to China, they will happy to buy them...
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gvan
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 1:36:30 PM

"It should be refined in Canada, then sell at the proper price"

Good idea except it's not practical........

Some people suggest refining the oil in Canada for export. It might be a good idea in theory, but it’s not really practical. Once refined, there will be over 20 products out of it. Are we going to build 20 plus pipelines or send them by trucks to the US and how is it shipped overseas? At 900,000 barrels a day, that’s over 4,000 truck loads a day.

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srchr
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 1:34:05 PM

forget it; we voted against oil and gas in the last election
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